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Towing With Tailgate Down Thinking about an ATV

#1 User is offline   2500Ram 

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 09:49 PM

Like the title says. Truck and TT are in sig, short box 6' and ATV is 86". Anyone towing with the tailgate down? Issues while cornering etc. I can open the tailgate and have about 5" clearance from the jack (Atwood 3500) but have never looked while towing or turning plus the TT is in winter storage. So I'm looking for other members that have or tried and say never again and why. I will pull the trailer out of storage before I buy anything and will test all turns but would like some info before I have to do that, it's cold here.

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 10:21 PM

Don't know what your clearance DURING the turn will be ... but last year I saw a PU's with the top of their tailgate dented in because of that very reason they said

Don't forget - when you turn .. the tailgate gets CLOSER to the trailer jack and propane cover....

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 11:16 PM

I've looked at my set up and would have to remove the tail gate on my truck to carry my ATV. Luckily, it's only a 2 minute job and no tools are needed. It's worth the extra work to keep the tail gate dent free.


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Posted 08 January 2010 - 12:28 AM

View PostJuan, on 07 January 2010 - 08:16 PM, said:

I've looked at my set up and would have to remove the tail gate on my truck to carry my ATV. Luckily, it's only a 2 minute job and no tools are needed. It's worth the extra work to keep the tail gate dent free.



While that is very convenient for you....theives also know this. Probably only take them ~1 min and then you're out ~$700. Mine is locked and I have a hose clamp over the area that allows the tailgate to lift out. The clamp has been stripped so the bad guys would have to have a very long extension and the correct socket to get mine off the truck. My tailgate came with the reserve camera, so this was one of the first things I did to protect it.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 12:32 AM

I don't yet own the ATV I'm asking about and if the wheels will fit in the bed of the truck I would remove the tailgate. I fully understand the potential of the tailgate hitting the propane cover in a tight turn, just curious if anyone has towed with it down.
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:05 AM

View Post2500Ram, on 07 January 2010 - 09:32 PM, said:

I don't yet own the ATV I'm asking about and if the wheels will fit in the bed of the truck I would remove the tailgate. I fully understand the potential of the tailgate hitting the propane cover in a tight turn, just curious if anyone has towed with it down.



Not sure what ATV you're planning on putting back there, but my Yamaha WR250 fits with the tailgate closed on my short bed F-350.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 07:51 AM

Good question. I was wondering the same thing. We just picked up a new truck with 6 1/2 bed and I was also wondering about towing with the tailgate down - either for an ATV or extra snowmobile. My ATV is an Outlander Max and I think it's too long so the back wheels would need to rest on the tailgate. I'll see what it looks like with the snowmobile trailer tomorrow.
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 09:09 AM

View PostOregon_Camper, on 08 January 2010 - 02:05 AM, said:

Not sure what ATV you're planning on putting back there, but my Yamaha WR250 fits with the tailgate closed on my short bed F-350.


See Jim, good thing you got the Ford. Dodge's short bed is ~8" shorter than yours. wink_smile
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 09:23 AM

View PostNathan, on 08 January 2010 - 07:09 AM, said:

View PostOregon_Camper, on 08 January 2010 - 02:05 AM, said:

Not sure what ATV you're planning on putting back there, but my Yamaha WR250 fits with the tailgate closed on my short bed F-350.


See Jim, good thing you got the Ford. Dodge's short bed is ~8" shorter than yours. wink_smile



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Posted 08 January 2010 - 09:49 AM

Our first camper was a 8.5' truck camper. We used it in our short bed truck so we always had our tailgate down since the camper actually had to rest on it. We also needed to tow our boat at the same time so my husband built an extension for the hitch. It worked well for us. Maybe the same could be done for your truck if needed. Our boat only had a 200lb tongue weight though.
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 12:43 PM

My truck has a 5 1/2 foot bed. I can fit my Honda 250ex ATV and still close the tail gate. I can fit my brothers Suzuki Z400 or Yamaha Banshee in the bed, but can't close the tail gate. The tail gate hits the back of the rear tires when it's about 1/2 way up. It would be fine without the tail gate on the truck as long as the ATV is secured properly. My ATVs aren't as big as yours, but neither in my truck bed. You might be able to make it work.

And yes, I too keep my tail gate locked to minimize the possibility of it getting stolen.


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Posted 08 January 2010 - 09:38 PM

I have about 1" of clearance with my tailgate down. Every time I am hitched up I make absolutely sure I close the tailgate. I have almost no margin for any turn!!

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 11:52 PM

With 5" clearance between your gate top when in the down position and the jack, you are likely all right for anything but a complete jacknife turn. I towed my last trailer that way for a few years with my motorcycle in the bed of the truck and the rear wheel resting on the gate.

Now I have the outback toy hauler and no need to do that anymore so have not tested it, but the front of the Outback is fairly long so you should be OK. Requires a test though to be sure.
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Posted 09 January 2010 - 09:36 AM

I have a similar situation; I have 2 ATV's one is a Polaris 2 seater X2 800; similar in lenght as the Outlander Max (which I was thinkin real hard about getting instead), anyway, I put my wolverine in truck bed; also a Ford 6.5 bed, and the Polaris goes into the OB toyhauler with NO room to spare. I looked into putting the polaris into the truck bed; it won't fit unless the tailgate is down,.... then, no clearance for the jackstand on the OB..But alas' I had an idea: how about one of those tail gates for a 5er that is cut out in the middle? it'll clear the Jackstand, when down, and still support the ATV. something like this:
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Posted 09 January 2010 - 02:39 PM

Why not get a rack like this? Gives you the entire bed of the truck to still haul stuff (gas, helmet, boots, cooler, etc....)

I don't have a need for this type of rack (yet), but I have bought 4 items from this company and they are all excellent quality.
http://www.discountr...-truck-rack.htm


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