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"heated Enclosed Underbelly, Tanks And Valves"

#1 User is offline   FordFamily 

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 04:11 PM

According to the Outback literature, their TT's have "Heated enclosed underbelly, tanks and valves". I have a 28RSDS, so...

1.) Can someone please explain what this means to me?
2.) Is the bottom wrapped in plastic, metal, fabric, what...?
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Posted 23 January 2006 - 04:18 PM

The next time you're out with the new baby, look under the trailer. All of the tanks, valves, etc., are enclosed (vs exposed tanks on 90% of the rest of the makes out there). There are only a few companies doing this (probably copied the outback). This helps with better air flow for towing, protection from things being thrown up under the trailer and when you are using your heater, there is radiant heat also going to the enclosure. Not sure how much, but it's going.

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 04:35 PM

FordFamily,

I wouldn't bet money on the "heat" keeping your pipes from freezing should you camp in very cold weather.

Read the numerous posts about this on our forum.

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 04:40 PM

I believe its not truly heated like your vents
But more like radiant heat coming from the duct works

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 05:36 PM

Imagine it is late at night in the Jones household. Our man Steve has had a tough couple of weeks, and needs to score soon. Let's listen in on his dreamwaves...

"Let's see....As Keystones main marketing guy, how do I spin the fact that we are not going to insulate the heating ductwork in the Outback...hmmm?

I got it! The radiant heat from the ductwork heats the plumbing and tanks, thus extending the camping season! Yeah, That's it! It's not cost savings. It's a feature!

Man am I good!

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Actually, I think it does help, but you should not consider your Outback a four-season trailer because of it. Yeah, I know Ghosty, it's 88 degrees and sunny in Texas! :rolleyes:

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 06:08 PM

My opinion is the 'heated' underbelly is more of a mildly good marketing game. They figured out it would be easier and cheaper to use a corrugated cover along the length of the chassis than it is to secure all the wires and pipes. The radiant heated underbelly was a bonus as it can work to a point. I myself do like it because it keeps the elements while driving, rocks, rain etc from damaging anything while traveling. Also if you needed to trace a electrical gremlin the wires are hanging instead of hidden if you remove the 'underbelly'

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 06:37 PM

I've been winter camping for decades (YIKES - Decades? :blink: ) and I camped all the time in my old TT with no problems. I took the Outback out in 14 degree weather with no problem - but the temps rose into the 30s and 40s during the day. The post below was a reply to someone who had bought an Outback in Chicago. I have changed my mind completely and am now on the "you shouldn't camp in very cold winter weather" side of the argument - without mods to the lines and/or underbelly. It stayed in the teens and below for two days and nights last weekend while we were camping. Had a great time though. :D

<< Quote: Being from the Chicago area though, don't plan on winter camping unless you plan on making some modifications. I was firmly on the "winter camping is okay" side of the argument until this weekend - everything froze on us. You'll be okay if the daytime temps go back into the 30s but watch out if they remain in the teens. I'm hoping to finally drain everything today after work (in the 40s yesterday and the 50s today) and I'm praying all is well with the plumbing.

Never-the-less, I love the Outback. I don't think you can go wrong if you purchase one. So far as price is concerned, Y-Guy's quote of 20,495 is a good price. Being on the upper east coast, everything is higher here. All the best no matter what you decide.

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 07:26 PM

My understanding of the heated underbelly is that the ducts which supply your trailer with heat are run under the holding tanks and as heat passes through the ducts and radiates upward it provides enough heat to keep the holding tanks and water lines from freezing. I camped mid november and for 2 days it was below freezing all day and all 4 nights, the year round people including the guy who managed the site said their water froze. I had no problem in my outback for the whole 4 days.
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Posted 23 January 2006 - 07:32 PM

Right, the brochure says the "enclosed, radiant-heated tanks" CAN EXTEND your camping season. The Outback is not an Arctic Fox.

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 08:08 PM

Thanks for the feedback, but I'm still a little unclear on what is the bottom wrapped in (plastic, metal, fabric, what...)?
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Posted 23 January 2006 - 08:23 PM

corrugated plastic screwed to the chassis and black sealant
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Posted 23 January 2006 - 08:32 PM

The underbelly is made out of polypropylene
It reminds me somewhat like corrugated plastic

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 08:37 PM

FordFamily our Raptor has the same underbelly as the Outback does.

The corrugated plastic acts to keep the cold air from reaching the floor (directly) and when you run the LP heater it helps trap the heat and keep the valves, water tank, etc warm. In extreme cold weather you may still freeze the valve lines and the pipes. We camped over Thanksgiving temps were in the 20s and below. We ran the LP heat as well as some space heaters. For the first couple of days, no problem but the last night (coldest night) the valves froze up and our already low tank of water froze (should have kept it filled more) but the worse thing was the waste water line froze (don't ask).

So, while the enclosed underbelly is great for mile temps it will not keep things from freezing unless you were to keep the LP heat on 24/7 which would run through LP fast and probably still wouldn't keep things from freezing. However that enclosed underbelly can make a huge difference when its not so cold and you just get a cold breeze through the campsite.

Most manufacturers do the same type of underbelly, if they even do that. The Actic Fox and some other 4 seaons campers actually use an insulated underbelly, which adds weight and really only makes a huge difference in very cold temps.

For all but the coldest days your Outback should do just fine.
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Posted 23 January 2006 - 09:27 PM

FordFamily,

The underbelly material is a corrugated black plastic that in a cross-section is constructed a lot like heavy cardboard, except it's not made out of paper/cellulose. The plastic is quite tough and resilient and is waterproof. All in all, it's a good feature.

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 09:51 PM

The problem with mine is the water line is laying on the underbelly. Not much insulating value in that black plastic.
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